More Mabinogi 2

• Kingofrunes wrote on 2012-11-02 07:40
  ya, no....
  
  Just no.
  
  I had my doubts about Mabi 2 and this just puts the nail the coffin. Looks too much like Vindictus. Looks more like a Vindictus 2 than a Mabi 2. I might try it for a little bit just to see what the story is and then drop it like a rock afterwards.
• Chockeh wrote on 2012-11-02 07:42

  Quote from Conor;974096:

  Samesies to the maxxX

  
  
  Looks like we're the minority though.
  
  WE ARE THE 1%.
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2012-11-02 07:56

  Quote from radionoise;973998:

  This looked a lot more like Mabinogi 2 than Mabinogi 2 did:
  
  [SPOILER="Spoiler"][video=youtube;UjocdpJmyPY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjocdpJmyPY[/video][/SPOILER]

  
  
  If that was Mabi 2, I'd play that in a heart beat! That's the kind of upgraded graphics I prefer.
• Continuum wrote on 2012-11-02 10:53

  Quote from Chockeh;974110:

  Looks like we're the minority though.
  
  WE ARE THE 1%.

  
  
  Yep.
  
  

  Quote from Mystickskye;974088:

  I'm not sure why people are expecting a mabinogi 2 replacement when it's been said that it won't be a replacement but another member of the family. The general idea is that if you like the gameplay style of Mabinogi then you can keep playing Mabinogi. Mabinogi 2 is meant to offer something different.
  
  Anyway! Some notes:

  
  
  • This game was designed to be action oriented. If you don't like that then as said before, you can keep playing Mabi. No one is forcing you to play Mabi II.
    
  • Not as hardcore as Heroes/Vindictus.
    
  • Gameplay is "interactive", seems to be highly situation/cue based ("reaction" commands are mentioned)
    
  • You play with the arrow keys and ZXC.
    
  • There will be instances. It's not clear if instances are the entire game.
    
  • There is customisation, it's not clear how much.
    
  • Uses Silvervine Engine, made from scratch by Devcat for Mabinogi II.
    
  • Players are warriors of/for Morrighan (steparu says oriana, he read wrong).
    

  
  
  I'll update with more later.
  
  Source: http://www.thisisgame.com/board/view.php?id=1335035&board=&category=102&subcategory=&page=1&best=&searchmode=&search=&orderby=&token=

  
  
  This list here pretty much sums up everything, and besides, Nexon already said they were going for something different.
  Why everyone insists on complaining before we even 10% of the actual content on the game I'll never know.
  Then again I'm used to seeing stupid pre-release disappointment bitching.
  Im just a person who prefers to everything about a game first befote i go an say anything.
• Ikezawa Hanako wrote on 2012-11-02 12:01
  Then for fuck's sake, don't call it "Mabinogi 2", call it "Mabinogi Arena" or something like that, or hell, drop the "Mabinogi" title from it entirely. It's apparently not even set in Erinn, goddammit.
  
  This is just a really expensive cash grab designed to get "hardcore gamers" (read: 14 year old boys) to play.
  
  

  Gameplay is "interactive", seems to be highly situation/cue based ("reaction" commands are mentioned)

  
  
  Oh goody, QTEs. Fucking QTEs. I mean, really?
  
  DevCAT seems intent on copypasting all the worst trends in gaming from the last 5 years.
  
  Also, given how DevCAT allocates its resources (allocate resources to one game, than strip it bare for another game, then strip THAT bare for their next project), this turd's existence can only mean ill for the real Mabinogi.
  
  I'll gladly play project NT though, looks like that's the real Mabinogi 2, if not story-wise, then in spirit.
• Hazeri wrote on 2012-11-02 12:56
  Autism in this thread reaching critical mass.
  
  So much butthurt because it doesn't look weeaboo. Thank god you weebs will be too busy playing project NT, less lag for Mabi 2 when it comes. And as far as I'm aware, this thing uses the mabi lore, thus they have every right to call it that.
• Ikezawa Hanako wrote on 2012-11-02 13:00
  >w-well, even if it is dead t-there will be l-less lag, right guys?
  
  damage control cranked up to 11 and the dial is ripped off
  
  Also it's in a completely different world than Mabinogi, and it's not that hard to tack on a few bits of lore, slap on a "Game: 2" title to a skeleton.
  
  calling it now: this is Tortanic: Korea Edition.
• Kendoza wrote on 2012-11-02 13:09
  Watch them not call it Mabinogi 2 and people will complain about it. Just like when they did it to Vindictus.
  And then there will be the threads about it. u_u
• Zeo wrote on 2012-11-02 13:11

  Quote from Ikezawa Hanako;974177:

  >w-well, even if it is dead t-there will be l-less lag, right guys?
  
  damage control cranked up to 11 and the dial is ripped off
  
  Also it's in a completely different world than Mabinogi, and it's not that hard to tack on a few bits of lore, slap on a "Game: 2" title to a skeleton.
  
  calling it now: this is Tortanic: Korea Edition.

  
  
  Quoted for truth... I mean... look at Macha in "Mabinogi 2" She doesn't even have red hair. :|
• Hazeri wrote on 2012-11-02 13:42

  Quote from Ikezawa Hanako;974177:

  >w-well, even if it is dead t-there will be l-less lag, right guys?
  
  damage control cranked up to 11 and the dial is ripped off
  
  Also it's in a completely different world than Mabinogi, and it's not that hard to tack on a few bits of lore, slap on a "Game: 2" title to a skeleton.
  
  calling it now: this is Tortanic: Korea Edition.

  
  
  >Tortanic: Korea edition
  AHHAHA no
  
  It's alright brah, you can be the little girl in Project NT, meanwhile I'll be having fun in what appears to be a FUN game.
  Have fun with your Tales reject.
• Ikezawa Hanako wrote on 2012-11-02 13:59
  Mabinogi has staying power, despite all the problems, because it's a laid-back semi-sandbox game with elements that appeal to all kinds of players, from combat oriented to social oriented to fashion oriented to trade oriented to "all of the above" oriented. If Vindi or Dragon Nest or DFO had the crap Mabi has gone through, it'd be a dead game, no question, because they're nowhere as deep and thus can not garner anywhere near the same staying power.
  
  I mean, they literally put buyable cheat codes in and they still have enough interested players to fill ALL the servers if there's an event (lat east on Alexina and maybe Mari). We're still mainly doing the same Shadow Missions we were doing in G10, yet there's staying power (oh there's bandit hunting and commerce, but those are largely solo affairs, and things like Scathach and NPC are largely end-game things). Imagine if Nexon and DevCAT actually invested in Mabi. Imagine Mabi with a cleaned up, upgraded, smoothened out engine, less/no latency, larger server capacity, real customer support - it'd make a killing despite being old. That's what Mabi 2 should have been. An upgrade to Mabi 1, not an entirely different game.
  
  "Mabinogi 2" looks like another generic action themepark MMO trying to jump in on the trend of action MMOs that were supposed to supplant games like WoW. And the gritty, dark, realistic GRAPHIX on the high powered game engine, we're totally targeting Mabi's main demographic with that. And again, QTEs. How more out of ideas can you get?
• Continuum wrote on 2012-11-02 15:47

  Quote from Ikezawa Hanako;974177:

  >w-well, even if it is dead t-there will be l-less lag, right guys?
  
  damage control cranked up to 11 and the dial is ripped off
  
  Also it's in a completely different world than Mabinogi, and it's not that hard to tack on a few bits of lore, slap on a "Game: 2" title to a skeleton.
  
  calling it now: this is Tortanic: Korea Edition.

  
  
  Dude, calm the hell down lol.
  Did you already forget that the only reason Mabinogi: Heroes is called Vindictus over here is to avoid confusion?
  They're calling it Mabinogi 2: Arena because that's what each game in Korea is called lol.
  And please don't be talking about me when you say damage control, I was just as surprised as anyone else with how different the combat alone looked from Mabi, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna be like you and completely judge the game based off a trailer.
  You're mainly the one bitching in this thread, just take some time and calm down, Mabinogi's not going anywhere.
  
  

  Quote from Hazeri;974185:

  >Tortanic: Korea edition
  AHHAHA no
  
  It's alright brah, you can be the little girl in Project NT, meanwhile I'll be having fun in what appears to be a FUN game.
  Have fun with your Tales reject.

  
  
  Now please don't make devolve even more into a damn war against Mabi 2.
  Project NT actually looks like a good game, and really does seem to be more like the original Mabi just from reading up it's features.
  Sure I enjoyed how the combat looked in Mabi 2 as well, but you can't say it's fun until you play it lol.
  I need to see more AND play it before I make any real judgement about it.
  Everyone here just too on the wall.
• Continuum wrote on 2012-11-02 15:52

  Quote from Continuum;974249:

  Dude, calm the fuck down lol.
  Did you already forget that the only reason Mabinogi: Heroes is called Vindictus over here is to avoid confusion?
  They're calling it Mabinogi 2: Arena because that's what each game in Korea is called lol.
  And please don't be talking about me when you say damage control, I was just as surprised as anyone else with how different the combat alone looked from Mabi, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna be like you and completely judge the game based off a trailer.
  You're mainly the one bitching in this thread, just take some time and calm down, Mabinogi's not going anywhere.

  
  
  

  Quote from Hazeri;974185:

  >Tortanic: Korea edition
  AHHAHA no
  
  It's alright brah, you can be the little girl in Project NT, meanwhile I'll be having fun in what appears to be a FUN game.
  Have fun with your Tales reject.

  
  
  Now please don't make devolve even more into a damn war against Mabi 2.
  Project NT actually looks like a good game, and really does seem to be more like the original Mabi just from reading up it's features.
  Sure I enjoyed how the combat looked in Mabi 2 as well, but you can't say it's fun until you play it lol.
  I need to see more AND play it before I make any real judgement about it.
  Everyone here just too on the wall.
• Oizen wrote on 2012-11-02 15:55

  Quote from Mystickskye;974088:

  I'm not sure why people are expecting a mabinogi 2 replacement when it's been said that it won't be a replacement but another member of the family. The general idea is that if you like the gameplay style of Mabinogi then you can keep playing Mabinogi. Mabinogi 2 is meant to offer something different.
  
  Anyway! Some notes:

  
  
  • This game was designed to be action oriented. If you don't like that then as said before, you can keep playing Mabi. No one is forcing you to play Mabi II.
    
  • Not as hardcore as Heroes/Vindictus.
    
  • Gameplay is "interactive", seems to be highly situation/cue based ("reaction" commands are mentioned)
    
  • You play with the arrow keys and ZXC.
    
  • There will be instances. It's not clear if instances are the entire game.
    
  • There is customisation, it's not clear how much.
    
  • Uses Silvervine Engine, made from scratch by Devcat for Mabinogi II.
    
  • Players are warriors of/for Morrighan (steparu says oriana, he read wrong).
    

  
  
  I'll update with more later.
  
  Source: http://www.thisisgame.com/board/view.php?id=1335035&board=&category=102&subcategory=&page=1&best=&searchmode=&search=&orderby=&token=

  
  Wait.
  Its not even using Source Engine?
  
  Nexon made the engine themselves? Why are they downgrading vindi D:
• Ikezawa Hanako wrote on 2012-11-02 16:03

  And please don't be talking about me when you say damage control, I was just as surprised as anyone else with how different the combat alone looked from Mabi, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna be like you and completely judge the game based off a trailer.

  
  
  Again, this is exactly what the TOR defenders said. Everytime people saw an unsettling sign from the game, people like you started going "Don't judge it yet, it's just a trailer!" Which turned into "Don't judge it yet, it's just beta!" Which turned into "Don't judge it yet, it just launched!" If this was going to be a proper sequel to Mabinogi, wouldn't it, you know, emphasize the things that people like about Mabinogi? That's usually what "sequels" do, unless you're trying to capture a whole new demographic to make more money.
  
  You don't need to wait until the boat's hit the iceberg to know it's in trouble.