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Rose wrote on 2010-08-22 08:06
Quote from Fumy;132933:
Look it up :3 5 Dex difference btw after looking it up and noticing that you failed hard at trying to argue with me please go back to ranking your skills before you start talking :D
You must be, like stupid.
I'm over the five dexterity difference, you said you had 400 Dex, so prove it.
Make sure you show your age as well :3
Fail hard, from the girl that cant understand English.
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EndlessDreams wrote on 2010-08-22 15:28
Quote from CableCrook;133484:
You must be, like stupid.
I'm over the five dexterity difference, you said you had 400 Dex, so prove it.
Make sure you show your age as well :3
Fail hard, from the girl that cant understand English.
Why would it be hard to imagine an elf with over 400 dex? They get +dex at any age. 400 dex just means that person done a moderate amount of lifeskills and finished the rest of the combat skills that involves dex.
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Rose wrote on 2010-08-22 22:17
Quote from EndlessDreams;133557:
Why would it be hard to imagine an elf with over 400 dex? They get +dex at any age. 400 dex just means that person done a moderate amount of lifeskills and finished the rest of the combat skills that involves dex.
I'm not saying it's hard, but she's running off her mouth so i want to see if it's true or not.
And i want to know her age, incase she's like level 100 at age 11 :P
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Shiko wrote on 2010-08-22 23:18
She has 400 dex maybe, when she is fully leveled... wouldn't be to unbelievable. But definately not at level 1. At a relatively low level (52/20) you get 52.5 dex meaning she only needs to have around 350 at level 1 to reach 400. Though I don't know whether or not shes counting titles and enchants into her dex.~
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Chihaya wrote on 2010-08-23 01:08
Good guide explaining, but I think you haven't exactly tested out some of the things...
1) You forgot that some of the best enchants in the game come on Heavy Armors and 2h Swords.
2) Dual Wielding indeed doubles damage, but it also doubles the bonuses from equipment, since they affect both weapons
3) being fast has nothing to do with this, since charge is even faster at 500% (compared with an elf's 166(?)%)
4) In the endgames, melee elves will lose due to the lack of STR, period. Even with higher Dex, it really doesn't matter. I'm personally a human who does NOT gain any dex whatsoever from leveling (I only get them from skills because my char age is 17+), and I have over 200 dex, effectively letting me use 222 broads. I should add that I have very few life skills, and the only noticeable Dex giving skills are Ranged Attack, Arrow Revolver, Refining, First Aid, Cooking, and a few Dex from skills here and there.
My elf is a melee, and I see the difference clearly even when using the same weapons. Having that choice of dual wielding or using a shield is probably the advantage of humans.
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Username wrote on 2010-08-23 08:08
Each race is good with one thing besides humans (Being good/best at almost everything)
The only difference is when giants get their Throw attack upgraded entirely next Generation update, it will out-damage everything, except maybe a powered magnum shot.
Elves are decent in melee, hell in PVP, they lock me bad. Its even worse when i knock them down, and they use that mod edit that allows them to res instantly. Which i find, game breaking. They lock, they hit hit, charge LB, run up
keep stabbing. Not much to retaliate too if you know what your doing. However unless you got a nice smash, str and damage rating, then Melee elves are not the best option, but not the worst option. Just call melee elves a challenge. People like challenges.
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Kazuni wrote on 2010-08-23 08:11
Quote from CableCrook;133484:
You must be, like stupid.
I'm over the five dexterity difference, you said you had 400 Dex, so prove it.
Make sure you show your age as well :3
Fail hard, from the girl that cant understand English.
Quote from CableCrook;133828:
I'm not saying it's hard, but she's running off her mouth so i want to see if it's true or not.
And i want to know her age, incase she's like level 100 at age 11 :P
You should stop antagonizing other people with dismissive terms like stupid, "fail hard" and "running off her mouth".
It's perfectly possible to get 400 dex.
A previous post in this thread was insulting as well. Please try to treat other people with respect even if you don't believe them.
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Kaon wrote on 2010-08-23 09:22
Quote from Username;134531:
Each race is good with one thing besides humans (Being good/best at almost everything)
The only difference is when giants get their Throw attack upgraded entirely next Generation update, it will out-damage everything, except maybe a powered magnum shot.
Elves are decent in melee, hell in PVP, they lock me bad. Its even worse when i knock them down, and they use that mod edit that allows them to res instantly. Which i find, game breaking. They lock, they hit hit, charge LB, run up
keep stabbing. Not much to retaliate too if you know what your doing. However unless you got a nice smash, str and damage rating, then Melee elves are not the best option, but not the worst option. Just call melee elves a challenge. People like challenges.
The cooldown on throwing attack still makes it near useless.
And there's not a mod for instantly getting up... it's just bad timing on your part or good timing on theirs.
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BobYoMeowMeow wrote on 2010-08-23 09:54
The cat remembered a video of a korean melee elf who is more stronger than the average player at the time
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Shirayuki wrote on 2010-08-23 11:33
Quote from Kaon;134561:
The cooldown on throwing attack still makes it near useless.
And there's not a mod for instantly getting up... it's just bad timing on your part or good timing on theirs.
There was a mod that allowed you to res in open PVP without the Res on Spot->Are you sure? Or maybe he means the FS glitch that killed all stun and allowed them to just continue as if they weren't even hit.
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Kyouriharu wrote on 2010-08-23 15:26
For the record, I have 220 melee damage max and I'm not even a pure melee elf. Lol.
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Shirayuki wrote on 2010-08-23 16:51
Quote from Kyouriharu;134650:
For the record, I have 220 melee damage max and I'm not even a pure melee elf. Lol.
I'm a melee human with 200 max with a bow >:O And I'm half your level! Stuff accumulates so I'm guessing your damage is probably normal.
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EndlessDreams wrote on 2010-08-23 17:25
Quote from Kaon;134561:
The cooldown on throwing attack still makes it near useless.
And there's not a mod for instantly getting up... it's just bad timing on your part or good timing on theirs.
I think he means Elf vs Giant where people are revived the instant they are dead. It requires some kind of modding to do that.
However, complaining about EvG doesn't really mount to anything. Even the best players of any races will have a lot of trouble getting out of a few people camping them. Skill ranks/damage don't matter when you are like 99% deadly or something.
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Kyouriharu wrote on 2010-08-23 18:14
Quote from Shirayuki;134712:
I'm a melee human with 200 max with a bow >:O And I'm half your level! Stuff accumulates so I'm guessing your damage is probably normal.
I also have only 100 base strength. All my damage is in my weapon.
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Shirayuki wrote on 2010-08-23 18:15
Quote from Kyouriharu;134841:
I also have only 100 base strength. All my damage is in my weapon.
Melee weapons are the easiest to get high damage with, so elven melees are easier to start out with than starting out with ranged human. :>