Melee Elf: They Don't Suck!(honest)

• Kyouriharu wrote on 2010-08-23 18:22

  Quote from Shirayuki;134846:

  Melee weapons are the easiest to get high damage with, so elven melees are easier to start out with than starting out with ranged human. :>

  
  Exactly. Melee is a side thing for me and didn't care too much about it. But with little AP to put in it, and my melee damage literally increasing 10 fold in a month when I started ranking it; a melee elf is still feasible.
  
  My only issue is the damage instability even with capped balance. Lul, 300 to 2700 smashes. Though I hit the 2700 more often than not, the 300 loves to troll me.
• Kaon wrote on 2010-08-23 18:23

  Quote from Kyouriharu;134841:

  I also have only 100 base strength. All my damage is in my weapon.

  
  
  With all normal str stuff maxed, and leveled some at a younger age I assume..? Sounds about right for that. I'm not a pure melee elf either, I just have probably a few more specialized enchants (peaceful on my wood plate cannon, leo acc) and... well level 100 in that screen lmao. And maybe r9 carpentry.
  
  At a more reasonable level now I'm more like, 130-140 base str at age 18, 120ish at age 17.
  
  
  

  Quote from Kyouriharu;134855:

  
  My only issue is the damage instability even with capped balance. Lul, 300 to 2700 smashes. Though I hit the 2700 more often than not, the 300 loves to troll me.

  
  
  Also this o.e...
• Shirayuki wrote on 2010-08-23 18:25

  Quote from Kyouriharu;134855:

  Exactly. Melee is a side thing for me and didn't care too much about it. But with little AP to put in it, and my melee damage literally increasing 10 fold in a month when I started ranking it; a melee elf is still feasible.
  
  My only issue is the damage instability even with capped balance. Lul, 300 to 2700 smashes. Though I hit the 2700 more often than not, the 300 loves to troll me.

  
  
  Magnum/consecutive AR misses love to troll me too </3
• Vanof wrote on 2010-08-23 18:56
  As a human... missing multiple magnums in a row.... Is indeed depressing. :'C
• Aubog007 wrote on 2010-08-24 13:12

  Quote from Kaon;133041:

  An option... sure I'll give you that. But I can top a 5xx human for damage with just melee, I guarantee you. Plus a human at that level would be seriously lacking the skill ranks to keep up the damage/crit ratio required for hard missions. Not that they can even do them. But if we want to limit it to what sort of crit they'd have (30% for wm) then I can do that too.
  
  

  [Image: http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/5815/mabinogi20100821002.jpg]

  
  
  And I don't even have carpentry done (only r9), or perfect ancient darkness (6/12 vic/darkness currently). (ego is weak atm tho, only 1 max better than my goddess spike 10-90 warhammer, and only str lvl 33)
  
  300max damage melee for an elf is completely possible for an elf my level.
  
  
  But when it comes down to it, imo, a good elf should at least be able to melee decently as a secondary, for when they encounter things range can't do anything to.

  
  
  ?
  At TL 500 i had R1 Crit CM and WM. (this was 2 months ago)
  My damage range with fists was half your damage with that Spirit weapon. (saw a warhammer)
  Basic Sac Giant gear.
  Crappy Armor that i can do without.
  Point being. Elf melee relies heavily on gear
  HEAVILY...... take all that gear away and what's left?
  Give that Bastard sword to a human (and let them dual wield another) and see what does better with it.
  Oh. I am age 10. Already calculated the STR from getting to 10x and aging.
  
  Do not like people making false claims.
  
  Oh and before people go off and say i don't know how to play the game.
  

  [Image: http://a.imageshack.us/img291/2632/mabinogi20100626001.jpg]

  
  I may sound arrogant or jerk-like. but reversing the arrogant nature of the poster i quoted. Sure maybe any average level 500 sure... But not a skilled player who knows how to skill build a melee char.
  
  But if you want to be a great melee. Play a race that plays off the strength of melee.
  Not a race that is not built to be an upper tier melee.
• Shirayuki wrote on 2010-08-24 13:58
  @Aubog
  If someone has the time to grind weekly to Lv80/20+, of course they'd be able to get far in the game/be good.
• Aubog007 wrote on 2010-08-24 14:15

  Quote from Shirayuki;135823:

  @Aubog
  If someone has the time to grind weekly to Lv80/20+, of course they'd be able to get far in the game/be good.

  
  
  Only took 4 hours a day max
  In the grand scheme of things... that isn't that long.
  Most people spend their time talking or doing other things. i just focus on one thing and try to mash it all together (talking and socializing while training)
• Shirayuki wrote on 2010-08-24 14:16

  Quote from Aubog007;135835:

  Only took 4 hours a day max
  In the grand scheme of things... that isn't that long.

  
  
  That's daily though, and it's doing only SMs and exploring. Doesn't really seem fun to me, which is the point of the game and probably the point of a melee elf, for funsies.
• Aubog007 wrote on 2010-08-24 14:32

  Quote from Shirayuki;135836:

  That's daily though, and it's doing only SMs and exploring. Doesn't really seem fun to me, which is the point of the game and probably the point of a melee elf, for funsies.

  
  
  You would have to understand more of my character to know why i SM a lot. (and actually i do have fun doing SMs... Gotta to have known me in Ruairi to understand why)
  Plus doing melee elf is fine as fun. Just don't like misinfo being spread. (I.E better than humans at certain levels...)
• Kyouriharu wrote on 2010-08-24 14:39
  Melee has always been gear heavy. It's perhaps the combat method that relies most on the gear.
• Syriah wrote on 2010-08-24 16:23
  Goodness gracious, dude! You could have written a book with that uber long post, with impeccable grammar and everything! Awesoooooooome!
  I do believe in the elves having to work harder to do good melee damage, though.
• Kaon wrote on 2010-08-25 02:30

  Quote from Aubog007;135812:

  ?
  At TL 500 i had R1 Crit CM and WM. (this was 2 months ago)
  My damage range with fists was half your damage with that Spirit weapon. (saw a warhammer)
  Basic Sac Giant gear.
  Crappy Armor that i can do without.
  Point being. Elf melee relies heavily on gear
  HEAVILY...... take all that gear away and what's left?
  Give that Bastard sword to a human (and let them dual wield another) and see what does better with it.
  Oh. I am age 10. Already calculated the STR from getting to 10x and aging.
  
  Do not like people making false claims.
  
  Oh and before people go off and say i don't know how to play the game.
  

  [Image: http://a.imageshack.us/img291/2632/mabinogi20100626001.jpg]

  
  I may sound arrogant or jerk-like. but reversing the arrogant nature of the poster i quoted. Sure maybe any average level 500 sure... But not a skilled player who knows how to skill build a melee char.
  
  But if you want to be a great melee. Play a race that plays off the strength of melee.
  Not a race that is not built to be an upper tier melee.

  
  
  I was arrogant...? If it seemed that way I didn't mean it to be.
  
  And of course it relies on gear. But that spirit is only 113 max atm... my goddess spike hammer is only 1 max less (I don't have spike str bonus)
  
  My human, total 600, with r1 cm, smash, crit, wm, and otherwise built to use my same enchants, hits 200ish max with that hammer and the same equips. Of course, actual damage output is another thing, but that's a different point.
  
  

  Quote from Aubog007;135843:

  You would have to understand more of my character to know why i SM a lot. (and actually i do have fun doing SMs... Gotta to have known me in Ruairi to understand why)
  Plus doing melee elf is fine as fun. Just don't like misinfo being spread. (I.E better than humans at certain levels...)

  
  
  
  Nobody said elves were better. Realistically, if that was my claim, comparing my char to a lvl 500 char would be absolutely silly in arguing that point. The only point of the thread is that it's viable. I was just intending to demonstrate that.