Un'stickied Threads?

• Maenad wrote on 2013-10-01 04:08

  Quote from Sepia;1154506:

  It's unnecessary.

  
  
  It helped get the point across, so even though non-necessary, 'twas helpful.
• Ciaö wrote on 2013-10-01 04:29
  People just give this a go. like seriously, you can spend a lot of your time arguing over this, why not actually spend the time to get used to the changes that has already been done. I mean like, if you can't adapt to changes, then how can you live your life when it's constantly changing.
  
  People have already suggested you few ways to get to the threads by subscribing to them or simply book mark the pages. Because you are not going to spend your whole life on these threads are you. If you use chrome, you can just pin these threads so they'll always show up in your browser until you click unpin. I'm not sure if it will work on other browsers so yea.
  
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  Now everyone just calm you guacamole and adapt to these changes.
  
  
  But just my 2 cents, since you made non-necro rule for Splatulated Ask, Spirit Weapon and Vindicus threads, why not make the unstickied threads non-necro rule too? Cause no one want to see multiple of same threads that could potentially be on the same page if some idiot decided to necro the old one
• Maenad wrote on 2013-10-01 04:37
  It seems like the unstickied threads everyone is arguing for to be stickied again are doing just fine on staying on the front page, despite being unstickied for several days now.
• Tropa wrote on 2013-10-01 07:49

  Quote from Maenad;1154494:

  I don't want to read about how someone got 20 gold from Shadow Wizard Elite; I'd rather read about how someone just mastered every single talent in the game, and I'd highly prefer that the latter wasn't overshadowed by the former.

  
  
  An accomplishment is an accomplishment.
• Aubog007 wrote on 2013-10-01 09:28
  And people only respond to certain accomplishments from certain people anyway.
  I do kinda agree if i made my own sep thread, it would have garnered more discussion.
• Syliara wrote on 2013-10-01 22:21

  Quote from Maenad;1154527:

  It seems like the unstickied threads everyone is arguing for to be stickied again are doing just fine on staying on the front page, despite being unstickied for several days now.

  
  
  But now theres that "chance" that it will drop off the first page which is something id honestly rather not have to worry about at all.... Why even chance that it could fall off the first page? Why not just keep it stickied since its popular enough to be considered something to sticky? Theres no real viable reason for unstickying those threads.....
• Froglord of DESTINY!!! wrote on 2013-10-02 01:49
  Did youtube invade nation or something?
  
  It seems this was a bad idea no one likes, but was made anyways on a whim disregarding how most of the userbase feels.
  
  I agree, this decision sucks, I liked those stickies.
• Maenad wrote on 2013-10-02 03:19

  Quote from Pureblooded;1154745:

  But now theres that "chance" that it will drop off the first page which is something id honestly rather not have to worry about at all.... Why even chance that it could fall off the first page? Why not just keep it stickied since its popular enough to be considered something to sticky? Theres no real viable reason for unstickying those threads.....

  
  
  If you care so much about it, make the effort to keep it on the first page yourself. It's not like you're forced to forget it exists if it goes to page 2.
• Syliara wrote on 2013-10-02 03:39

  Quote from Maenad;1154825:

  If you care so much about it, make the effort to keep it on the first page yourself. It's not like you're forced to forget it exists if it goes to page 2.

  
  
  Why do i have to put more effort forth for something like that when it can simply be restickied? There was no good reason to unsticky it in the first place..... Me making sure it stays on the first page seems like a completely unnecessary thing to have to worry about when it can simply be solved by restickying.... Same can go for all unstickied threads too....
• Ciaö wrote on 2013-10-02 03:49

  Quote from Pureblooded;1154836:

  Me making sure it stays on the first page seems like a completely unnecessary thing

  
  
  No one said it's up to you to keep these threads on the first page, or actually on the top of the first page.
  
  

  Quote from Ashikoki;1153495:

  There are plenty of forums that operate with a sticky function that does not use it for anything other than purely informative purposes and they have plenty of success.

  
  
  

  Quote from Ashikoki;1153495:

  Popular threads stay up. Pointless or boring threads die instantly. The more active a forum, the better it regulates itself through an invisible community sift.

  
  
  Like it literally takes no effort at all to keep them up there, cause they're almost always up there
• Maenad wrote on 2013-10-02 03:55

  Quote from Pureblooded;1154836:

  Why do i have to put more effort forth for something like that when it can simply be restickied? There was no good reason to unsticky it in the first place..... Me making sure it stays on the first page seems like a completely unnecessary thing to have to worry about when it can simply be solved by restickying.... Same can go for all unstickied threads too....

  
  
  The unstickying gives more room for actual discussion on the first page.
  
  
  
  Also, why are you arguing so hard for re-sticky-ing the threads? Are you that lazy that to be searching any more than the very top of the first page would be too much work for you?
• Syliara wrote on 2013-10-02 03:57

  Quote from Ciaö;1154841:

  No one said it's up to you to keep these threads on the first page, or actually on the top of the first page.
  
  
  
  
  
  Like it literally takes no effort at all to keep them up there, cause they're almost always up there

  
  
  Was responding to maenad, not that I was designated "popular thread CPR" person.
  
  Firstly, this isnt every other forums, its Mabination.
  
  Secondly, I see no point in destickying threads that are popular, the forums were working just fine before and had no problems with activity or anything of the sort (in mabinogi talk section anyways), so I'm still not seeing the reasoning behind destickying those threads in the first place. As it was stated before, this move seems more like a "change for the sake of change" thing and no other reason behind it.
  
  Thirdly, doesnt matter if it does or doenst take effort, theres that "chance" now and there was a 0% chance of it while they were stickied, so why even add that small chance that it can drop off?
  
  I'm not going to lose any sleep over all of this, however I would like a viable reason as to why it was even done in the first place since all the reasons ive been given so far seem like they are grasping at straws. I can't change anything myself so I wont fret over it, but I still dont see any legit reasoning behind the course of action taken by ashi.
  
  By the way, it is slightly annoying that I now have to sift through threads I deem "not worth my time" to find threads that I used to be able to just scroll up and click on with little to no effort.
  
  @Maenad
  
  For alot of forums, about halfway down the page were pretty dried up and dead threads so that doesnt really help the cause much. And if wat u said is true and the popular threads will stay on the first page anyways, then doesnt that point make no sense? Now it just means that the threads are a different color....
  
  For ur 2nd part refer to this post.
• Maenad wrote on 2013-10-02 03:58
  Stickies should only be used when they're needed, not when they would be nice.
• Ithiliel wrote on 2013-10-02 04:05
  Everyone needs to just calm down and untwist their panties. Ashi has pretty much already said she's going to end up restickying the threads, so why are we still angry?
  
  Also, the level of serious commitment people have to being lazy is amazing. One mouse click to a second page is really that difficult? America.
• Syliara wrote on 2013-10-02 04:06

  Quote from Maenad;1154848:

  Stickies should only be used when they're needed, not when they would be nice.

  
  
  Doesn't really matter, the threads were stickied before hand so thats the fault of the mods. You shouldn't sticky threads for months and then suddenly unsticky them on the premise that u feel you made a mistake or that ur definition of "threads that should be stickied" has changed unless they are dead threads which most of them werent. And honestly, a stickied thread is opinionated, whatever is stickied is up to the community and the moderators not up to one person's definition.