Mabinogi Renovation Update

• Citrusjuice wrote on 2014-11-13 00:01

  Quote from KingFintchz;1253986:

  Unless, the stomp's damage is like 100% at rF and something like 300-400% at r1..

  
  
  actually, stomp doesn't have to have damage upped to be useful. Just the range is enough for it's utility of a third defensive skill (aside form defense, and ct) as shown in the video ironwoman posted
• ironwoman wrote on 2014-11-13 01:09

  Quote from KingFintchz;1253986:

  Pretty sure (well in Alexina amongst the PvPers), final hit is already "banned", aside from using its teleportation as a short of "shieldless charge".
  
  But that aside, although Giants seem to get "all the love" in terms of I guess skills and stats (or some would have it seem), if I were to ask for anything I would like to have seen something besides a stomp buff. Unless, the stomp's damage is like 100% at rF and something like 300-400% at r1. I think I'd be cool if they also added another throwing attack revamp, or somehow made it more useful (piercing or something, Javelins are fucken huge), or just make eles work on atlatls.
  
  Wonder how useful this'll make melee weapons besides lances now.
  
  Looking forward to the Glitch fixes for fighter and such.

  
  
  Not much more useful.
  
  Assault slash damage is splash and aggros everything. It's great if you can hit 20k assault slashes, but let's be real, are you gonna do that? Even worse, if you ask me.
  
  Only thing I see remotely useful is Final Hit. But then again, it doesn't crit every hit like wotg does.
• KingFintchz wrote on 2014-11-13 04:47

  Quote from Citrusjuice;1253993:

  actually, stomp doesn't have to have damage upped to be useful. Just the range is enough for it's utility of a third defensive skill (aside form defense, and ct) as shown in the video ironwoman posted

  
  
  My main, I guess "complaint" about stomp was already useful in that respect and the slight damage increase (if at r1 is 100%), wouldn't be too different than it is now as a Stun, or Deadly-Finish move. It might be better to make it so stomp has that 100% damage at r1, however has some "ignore [insert number] amount of protection" for damage rather than defense.
  
  In the end, from the video I've seen and what I've read so far, it kind of seems like a fully charged lightning bolt a bit (or has the same utlity) in hardmode missions/elite/NPC. It may take place of lightning bolt for stun/damage for me however.
• Avino wrote on 2014-11-13 04:57

  Quote from KingFintchz;1253986:

  Pretty sure (well in Alexina amongst the PvPers), final hit is already "banned", aside from using its teleportation as a short of "shieldless charge".
  
  But that aside, although Giants seem to get "all the love" in terms of I guess skills and stats (or some would have it seem), if I were to ask for anything I would like to have seen something besides a stomp buff. Unless, the stomp's damage is like 100% at rF and something like 300-400% at r1. I think I'd be cool if they also added another throwing attack revamp, or somehow made it more useful (piercing or something, Javelins are fucken huge), or just make eles work on atlatls.
  
  Wonder how useful this'll make melee weapons besides lances now.
  
  Looking forward to the Glitch fixes for fighter and such.

  
  
  Spec upg and ele for atlatls would be nice.. last time i checked ele didnt effect throwing attk dmg ;(.. but it did increase wm dmg with atlatl
• Kaeporo wrote on 2014-11-13 10:10
  Changes:
  
  Normal attacks no longer consume durability while Final Hit is active.
  Final Hit duration is reduced if Knuckles are equipped.
  
  Charge/Assault Slash splash damage reduced from 80% to 70%.
  Charge/Assault Slash splash damage no longer causes monsters to agro the user.
  Charge/Assault Slash no longer knock splashed targets backwards.
  The splash damage and impact radius of Charge is now rank dependent.
  The impact radius of Assault Slash is now rank dependent.
• k1nsoo wrote on 2014-11-13 15:02

  Quote from Kaeporo;1254055:

  Changes:
  
  Normal attacks no longer consume durability while Final Hit is active.
  Final Hit duration is reduced if Knuckles are equipped.
  
  Charge/Assault Slash splash damage reduced from 80% to 70%.
  Charge/Assault Slash splash damage no longer causes monsters to agro the user.
  Charge/Assault Slash no longer knock splashed targets backwards.
  The splash damage and impact radius of Charge is now rank dependent.
  The impact radius of Assault Slash is now rank dependent.

  
  
  Final Hit duration is reduced if Knuckles are equipped. << can't find this on official patch notes?
• Citrusjuice wrote on 2014-11-13 15:20
  now that the aggro is removed, it just looks like a...
  
  "giant " buff to... 'giants' :glasses:
  haha jk
  
  I better go get some beams that I'll never have to repair...
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2014-11-13 21:48

  Quote from Kaeporo;1254055:

  Changes:
  Final Hit duration is reduced if Knuckles are equipped.
  Charge/Assault Slash splash damage reduced from 80% to 70%.

  
  
  That's stupid! That just makes them even LESS viable to use!
• Kaon wrote on 2014-11-13 22:16

  Quote from Kaeporo;1254055:

  Changes:
  
  Normal attacks no longer consume durability while Final Hit is active.

  
  
  YES. That's all I wanted.
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2014-11-13 22:17

  Quote from Kaon;1254123:

  YES. That's all I wanted.

  
  
  But you're an Elf, you can't use FH :cry:
• Kaon wrote on 2014-11-13 22:23

  Quote from Darkboy132;1254124:

  But you're an Elf, you can't use FH :cry:

  
  
  I have a human char on both Alexina and Ruairi. Not that I'll probably bother with the Alexina one, but that aside.. I've always enjoyed FH.
  
  But.. why this is fun..
  first off, I run langhu set on my Ruairi char (because guns, attack speed yay).
  second, all the best fh weapons are stupid repairs
  third, a full reforge set for FH is pretty much broken already, this just actually makes it cost efficient to actually use in combat.
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2014-11-14 04:32
  -Can the debuffs, especially daze, work on other players?
  -Can fairy pet cure debuffs?
• Kapra wrote on 2014-11-14 04:54
  So is the new knuckle FH duration shorter than the duration before any of these melee updates? Do knuckles still have the damage/speed buffs for FH from the first melee update?
• Kingofrunes wrote on 2014-11-14 08:53

  Quote from Kapra;1254180:

  So is the new knuckle FH duration shorter than the duration before any of these melee updates? Do knuckles still have the damage/speed buffs for FH from the first melee update?

  
  
  I didn't notice a decrease the first time but that may be the case now. As for the second question, Knuckles still felt slow in the first update but it did have the damage buff.
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2014-11-14 21:29

  Quote from Darkboy132;1254174:

  -Can the debuffs, especially daze, work on other players?
  -Can fairy pet cure debuffs?

  
  
  -Is FH duration affected when you use it then equip the knuckle?
  -Is FH duration affected when you use it with a knuckle then unequip it?