[Mabinogi KR Test] Renovation Update - Magic // 15th of January, 2015

• Tyskiyomy wrote on 2015-01-09 21:17
  I love it, no other words to express...
  

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• Citrusjuice wrote on 2015-01-09 21:27
  how many mana pots do you get from the ptj tho
• DefinitelyNotTwin wrote on 2015-01-09 21:39
  Yay for Ice Bolt o3o
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2015-01-09 21:53
  Looking back, I still think Lightning Bolt has problems. Wasn't it meant to be "conducted"? Who does that anymore, AT ALL? It's area of effect properties are worsened that the chain deals 10% less damage per enemy.
• Kaeporo wrote on 2015-01-09 22:38

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  Specifically, the reforges.
  
  The skill itself is fine.
• Aubog007 wrote on 2015-01-09 22:40

  Quote from Kaeporo;1260556:

  Specifically, the reforges.
  
  The skill itself is fine.

  
  
  Reforges shouldn't have been in the game in the first place.
• Kaeporo wrote on 2015-01-09 23:02

  Quote from Aubog007;1260557:

  Reforges shouldn't have been in the game in the first place.

  
  
  I disagree. Reforges act as an extension of your character development. A way for me to progress (because lord knows that's all this game has going for it) and differentiate my character from yours. My character is strong but you can view my reforges to see how i'm strong; what I value.
  
  Reforges aren't the issue. Specific reforges, their RNG reliance, and their availability are the problem. The system itself is fully realized. Besides, if you remove reforges at this point, you might as well throw all forms of melee, archery, and martial arts in the trash.
• Kapra wrote on 2015-01-09 23:08

  Quote from Darkboy132;1260516:

  Questions to KR Testers:
  

  
  
  • Lightning Bolt extra damage 30% for all ranks?
    

  
  I already answered this earlier in the thread.
  

  Quote from Kapra;1260451:

  Okay I just datamined and have confirmed everything in the first post except I found one very weird thing. Lightning bolt's damage bonus is influenced by dan ranks. At r1, the full charge damage bonus is 26%, not 30%. It is 30% at Dan 3. Icebolt's new bling doesn't seem to be influenced by Dan ranks. And yes, no change to Firebolt.

  
  And yes rF is lower than 26%.
  
  
  If people are going to get mad at you in missions and tell you not to use magic and that you should be 1-hitting enemies in one second, paying a shitload to reforge stuff, to hell with them. Better to solo than deal with assholes.
• Zeo wrote on 2015-01-09 23:16

  Quote from Aubog007;1260557:

  Reforges shouldn't have been in the game in the first place.

  
  
  I agreed with this. Reforges are the worst addition they've ever done to Mabinogi the whole time.
  
  Other than that... I want to add that me and my friends are disappointed they did nothing about spellwalk this update... maybe they'll change that soon, haha.
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2015-01-09 23:27

  Quote from Zeo;1260561:

  Other than that... I want to add that me and my friends are disappointed they did nothing about spellwalk this update... maybe they'll change that soon, haha.

  
  
  What were you expecting? IMO the 2x MP cost is dumb due to the massive drawbacks this skill already has, and maybe Magic Shields need to be compatible, otherwise I don't see what else.
• Osayidan wrote on 2015-01-09 23:32
  I think reforges should exist but should not be so totally fucking random. They should offer reforges specific to different skill sets, while keeping the price and the rest of the functions the same. Kind of how there's a comerce reforge there should be melee, mage, archery and everything else reforges. As a mage I don't want to get alchemy or dex or puppet shit on my items when I'm trying to get magic effects.
  
  As for certain specific reforge effects being OP I wouldn't know but I'm sure some of them are ridiculous.
• Zeo wrote on 2015-01-09 23:38

  Quote from Darkboy132;1260565:

  What were you expecting? IMO the 2x MP cost is dumb due to the massive drawbacks this skill already has, and maybe Magic Shields need to be compatible, otherwise I don't see what else.

  
  
  I don't mind the 200% MP cost.
  
  But the 10 stamina per 1 second use at rank 1 is just absurd.
• Kaeporo wrote on 2015-01-09 23:39

  Quote from Osayidan;1260566:

  I think reforges should exist but should not be so totally fucking random. They should offer reforges specific to different skill sets, while keeping the price and the rest of the functions the same. Kind of how there's a comerce reforge there should be melee, mage, archery and everything else reforges. As a mage I don't want to get alchemy or dex or puppet shit on my items when I'm trying to get magic effects.
  
  As for certain specific reforge effects being OP I wouldn't know but I'm sure some of them are ridiculous.

  
  
  That's exactly my argument.
  
  1. Things like Crash Shot Fragment Count should be toned down to improve the viability of something like Evasion Limit Reduction and reduce power creep.
  2. Reforges should be less random; they should reward ability and dedication, not luck.
  3. Reforges should be available via in-game means.
  
  

  Quote from Zeo;1260569:

  I don't mind the 200% MP cost.
  
  But the 10 stamina per 1 second use at rank 1 is just absurd.

  
  
  The stamina consumption is pretty rough, especially since most players don't have like 3k+ of the stuff. Hopefully they either tone that down or buff the stamina reduction set effect.
• Juno wrote on 2015-01-09 23:46
  Reforges would have been great if any effort at all went into balancing them. Instead, they just slapped a bunch of numbers down and put them on the market.
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2015-01-10 00:12

  Quote from Zeo;1260569:

  I don't mind the 200% MP cost.

  
  
  Ehh, not really much of a point to the mana cost since people just load it, then use SW.
  
  
  I'm still kind of annoyed that they didn't do anything to adjust Lightning Bolt's area of effect. Wasn't that the main purpose of that skill?