[Mabinogi] Zero Merlin Update (Information Consolidated and Organized)

• wallrocha wrote on 2013-09-08 19:58

  Quote from Zekkii;1145601:

  things

  
  
  I have been reforging this Rosemary for some time and I never saw a Magic Attack reforge so I presume its very rare or thats just a myth.
  Fusion Bolt on headgear is also very viable (personal testing) so I would add that.
  Ice Spear Explosion Range is fun but I wouldn't choose this unless you are farming Mutant Rabbits. It only get you aggro'ed with shitty damage in the end (if you are pure mage, you are going to play dead till someone clean up)
  
  Also, someone has been sending me PMs about Elemental Mastery on headgear reforges and he said:
  
  "Mastery damage is NOT additive, it's multiplicative as in level 20 (which gives 10%) will just add 10% do your respective mastery bonus making it 11%."
  
  He also mentioned that theres is a thread in this forum somewhere about it.
• Zekkii wrote on 2013-09-08 21:34

  Quote from wallrocha;1145679:

  I have been reforging this Rosemary for some time and I never saw a Magic Attack reforge so I presume its very rare or thats just a myth.
  Fusion Bolt on headgear is also very viable (personal testing) so I would add that.
  Ice Spear Explosion Range is fun but I wouldn't choose this unless you are farming Mutant Rabbits. It only get you aggro'ed with shitty damage in the end (if you are pure mage, you are going to play dead till someone clean up)

  Yes fusion bolt damage reforge would be acceptable; I just didn't list the fusion reforge because the bolt mastery reforge is slightly more versatile, dual-reforges are fairly rare, and most people don't seem to prone to use fusion.
  
  

  Also, someone has been sending me PMs about Elemental Mastery on headgear reforges and he said:
  
  "Mastery damage is NOT additive, it's multiplicative as in level 20 (which gives 10%) will just add 10% do your respective mastery bonus making it 11%."
  
  He also mentioned that theres is a thread in this forum somewhere about it.

  So you're saying if I got Ice Mastery 20 reforge on headgear, it would effectively add +1% Ice Mastery damage with r1 Ice Mastery? Well if it helps, with Bolt Mastery 20 reforge I can see considerable damage boosts (should be adding a 0.2 modifier or close to it) despite having rN bolt mastery. I've never had an elemental headgear reforge so I can't say whether or not it's true, but it seems unlikely. Perhaps someone with the reforge could enlighten us.
• Mckinzie wrote on 2013-09-08 22:03

  Quote from merrykitten;1138071:

  it's not that fair
  
  sniper needs one to spend 157 (bow mastery) + 490 (crash shot) + 157 (crossbow mastery) + 200/203 + (magnum for human/elf) + 155/247 (ranged for human/elf) + 181 (support shot) it's 1340/1435 ap for human/elf (and two skills are borderline useless - crossbow mastery and support shot)
  
  master of meteor needs just 156 (fire mastery) + 383 (fireball) + 521 (metero strike) it's just 1060 ap and every skill is useful, also no discrimination of elves

  It's been two weeks.since this post I'm replying to was posted, but I resent that "borderline useless" remark in regards to Crossbow Mastery. It's already good for Arbalest and Crossbow users and, come Merlin, will be giving additional defense piercing on top of that given by high dexterity, meaning I'll be doing even higher damage with my crits. Sure, "regular" bows may be better, but that does not make CM useless.
  
  Support Shot, though? Yeah, pretty damn useless.
  
  *TWANG*
• Kaeporo wrote on 2013-09-08 22:14

  Quote from Mckinzie;1145722:

  It's been two weeks.since this post I'm replying to was posted, but I resent that "borderline useless" remark in regards to Crossbow Mastery. It's already good for Arbalest and Crossbow users and, come Merlin, will be giving additional defense piercing on top of that given by high dexterity, meaning I'll be doing even higher damage with my crits. Sure, "regular" bows may be better, but that does not make CM useless.
  
  Support Shot, though? Yeah, pretty damn useless.
  
  *TWANG*

  
  
  Support Shot is incredibly useful. Crossbow Mastery and its affiliated weapons, however, are pure trash. It's only rendered "not-useless" in the same way that Wine Making is "not-useless".
• Slayerj wrote on 2013-09-08 22:33

  Quote from Kaeporo;1145728:

  Support Shot is incredibly useful. Crossbow Mastery and its affiliated weapons, however, are pure trash. It's only rendered "not-useless" in the same way that Wine Making is "not-useless".

  
  
  Everything in this game has it's uses. Bolts for mages are their so they have something to use before they get the big guns, and fusion bolt for those that prefer bolts.
  
  CM for x-bow lovers.
  
  Wine making for.....what ever you use wine for and those 2 shadow missions that need a pass.
  
  *sigh* even hailstorm is useful to some people. It's just your perspective on things.
• Zekkii wrote on 2013-09-08 22:35
  ITT: Archers complaining about AP costs being higher than that of mages.
  
  GG people.
• Syr wrote on 2013-09-08 22:36

  Quote from Slayerj;1145733:

  Wine making for.....what ever you use wine for and those 2 shadow missions that need a pass.

  
  
  ...actually, Winemaking does absolutely nothing but add stats and talent exp xD
  
  

  Quote from Zekkii;1145735:

  ITT: Archers complaining about AP costs being higher than that of mages.
  
  GG people.

  
  
  I'm pretty sure this topic was discussing Druid update stuff before a page or so ago xD
• Mckinzie wrote on 2013-09-08 22:37

  Quote from Kaeporo;1145728:

  Support Shot is incredibly useful. Crossbow Mastery and its affiliated weapons, however, are pure trash. It's only rendered "not-useless" in the same way that Wine Making is "not-useless".

  SS is near useless in solo play and really only shines in team play on monsters that have a ton of HP.
  
  But crossbows are really fun weapons when you're not obsessed with dealing the most damage possible.
  
  *TWANG*
• Zekkii wrote on 2013-09-08 22:46

  Quote from Mckinzie;1145737:

  SS is near useless in solo play and really only shines in team play on monsters that have a ton of HP.
  
  But crossbows are really fun weapons when you're not obsessed with dealing the most damage possible.
  
  *TWANG*

  
  Support shot to lance charge, charging strike, focused fist, or even smash are all incredibly useful in solo play. This has nothing to with magic though.
• Mckinzie wrote on 2013-09-08 22:52

  Quote from Zekkii;1145744:

  Support shot to lance charge, charging strike, focused fist, or even smash are all incredibly useful in solo play. This has nothing to with magic though.

  
  Depends on how far from the enemy you are when you hit them with SS. In most cases, that 3 second timeframe just is not long enough for solo use...
  
  If I do use it, it's as a pseudo-AR with normal shots while actual AR is on cooldown.
• Kaeporo wrote on 2013-09-08 22:56

  Quote from Mckinzie;1145749:

  Depends on how far from the enemy you are when you hit them with SS. In most cases, that 3 second timeframe just is not long enough for solo use...
  
  If I do use it, it's as a pseudo-AR with normal shots while actual AR is on cooldown.

  
  
  Support Shot to Bowmill can hit upwards of 15k.
• Mckinzie wrote on 2013-09-09 00:36

  Quote from Kaeporo;1145751:

  Support Shot to Bowmill can hit upwards of 15k.

  
  
  According to my math, that's ~1400 bare-handed damage and I really do not hit that high with my fists yet.
  
  Once again, damage obsession. I prefer being mobile.
• Psy wrote on 2013-09-09 02:12

  Quote from Slayerj;1145733:

  Wine making for.....what ever you use wine for and those 2 shadow missions that need a pass.

  
  It may sound silly, but Wine Making is irrelevant to making wine. As others said, it's just for stats and int-titles. And I guess a negligible amount of cooking talent exp.
• Kenero wrote on 2013-09-09 03:06

  Quote from Mckinzie;1145787:

  According to my math, that's ~1400 bare-handed damage and I really do not hit that high with my fists yet.
  
  Once again, damage obsession. I prefer being mobile.

  
  
  While barehand damage is calculated into bowmill's damage.
  
  The weapon's elemental level, piercing (if applicable such as the Bhafel Huntress) and Red upgrades all applies to bowmil.
• Kenero wrote on 2013-09-09 03:06

  Quote from Mckinzie;1145787:

  According to my math, that's ~1400 bare-handed damage and I really do not hit that high with my fists yet.
  
  Once again, damage obsession. I prefer being mobile.

  
  
  While barehand damage is calculated into bowmill's damage.
  
  The weapon's elemental level, piercing (if applicable such as the Bhafel Hunter) and Red upgrades all applies to bowmil. Special arrow damage, such as the special +15% damage from Bhafel Huntress also applies to bowmil damage.