[Mabinogi] Zero Merlin Update (Information Consolidated and Organized)

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Kingofrunes wrote on 2013-08-24 22:47

Quote from wallrocha;1139960:
How did you discovered that reforges that add max damage on spells got nerfed [S]that much[/S]?
Does that mean all of them got nerfed post Zero? My guess is that the max damage only apply on the first charge now instead of every charge x6.5, amrite?

I am still curious about the post zero Savage Wand/Hermit Staff upgrades. It stil say "4 magic" on the upgrades but I don't know if thats a 4% or just a....... 4 magic attack.

edit: From the screenshots that King posted, I cant read anything beside the numbers on the weapons. Anyone here can read Korean and can tell me if it says % after the number?

One sec. Let me get Blanks on that. Also the Magic Attack is a typo. If you equip the wand you won't see your magic attack go up by the corresponding amount.

I'm going to retract my previous statement on the magic attack bit. Seems that the upgrades were changed to be Magic Attack instead of Magic Damage.

Here's the translations:

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Upgrade
16 magic attack

Artisian
Mana +6
Stamina +3
Int +72

Reforge
Max Injury Rate 17 (25.50% increase) (+1.5 Per Level)
Hail Storm Max Damage 19 (190 increase) (+10 Per Level)
Min injury Rate 9 (9% increase) (+1 Per Level)

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[Image: http://puu.sh/46KOO.png]

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Upgrade
magic attack 15

Artisan
Luck +36
Mana +44
Int +86

Reforge
Magic Attack 15 (+60 Magic Attack) (+4 Magic Attack Per Level)
Icebolt Max damage 11 (+27.50 Damage) (+2.5 Per Level)
Rage of Wings damage 4 (+40 Damage) (+10 Per Level)

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[Image: http://puu.sh/46L21.png]

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Upgrade
Magic Attack 21

Artisan
Mana +11
Luck +43
Int +98

Reforge
HP 1 (+1.5) (+1.5 Per Level)
Mind of Connous Int 2 (+15) (+7.5 Per Level)
Luck 1 (+1.5) (+1.5 Per Level)

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[Image: http://puu.sh/46L8g.png]

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Upgrade
Magic Attack 28
Charging Speed -10%

Reforge
Dex 3 (+7.5) (+2.5 Per Level)
Rage of Wings damage 7 (+70) (+10 Per level)
magic attack 18 (+72) (+4 Magic Attack Per Level)

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Upgrade
Magic Attack 2

Reforge
Ice Spear Max damage 18 (+90) (+5 Ice Spear Damage per level)
Hail Storm max damage 20 (+200) (+10 Hail Storm Damage Per Level)
Fury of Light damage 13 (.39 Increase) (+.03 Per Level)
wallrocha wrote on 2013-08-24 23:09

Wow what a let down... so they did changed the magic damage % upgrades into raw magic attack....
One more question, if you dont mind, whats writen in the Black Mask Staff? 25 magic attack or +25% magic damage?

(assuming that the magic attack is the same as the one you get from 5 int = 1 magic attack)
Kingofrunes wrote on 2013-08-24 23:29

Quote from wallrocha;1140052:
Wow what a let down... so they did changed the magic damage % upgrades into raw magic attack....
One more question, if you dont mind, whats writen in the Black Mask Staff? 25 magic attack or +25% magic damage?

(assuming that the magic attack is the same as the one you get from 5 int = 1 magic attack)

It's 25 Magic Attack according to Blanks unfortunately. Also if you saw my screenshots on page 7 for fire and ice mastery, I'm beginning to think they were also modified to add damage to the spell portion of the formula.
Gensokyou wrote on 2013-08-25 00:19

Quote from Kingofrunes;1140046:
stuff

[Image: http://puu.sh/4a54K/db9ba098ae.jpg]

This is my fire wand atm. Equipping it gives no +Matk.

I'm thinking perhaps it could be the same typo?

Could someone on KR test this? Like, upgrade a wand, stick it on, and see if your matk changes?
wallrocha wrote on 2013-08-25 00:45

Quote from Kingofrunes;1140059:
It's 25 Magic Attack according to Blanks unfortunately. Also if you saw my screenshots on page 7 for fire and ice mastery, I'm beginning to think they were also modified to add damage to the spell portion of the formula.

Quote from Kingofrunes;1140059:
[Image: http://puu.sh/47WSm.png]

Well it also says -10 do MP Usage and that makes me think its just a typo (or they were too lazy to put the %)

@Gensokyou
that just happened recently with all of my wands/staves that had Magic Damage %.

Other thing, is it just me or recently im noticing faster casting speed on my Int magics? (1k+ int)
Gensokyou wrote on 2013-08-25 00:55

One good thing I noticed is that +Matk reforges have been multiplied by 4. That's definitely a plus, despite how relatively useless MAtk is now ._.;
Kingofrunes wrote on 2013-08-25 01:26

Quote from Gensokyou;1140081:
[Image: http://puu.sh/4a54K/db9ba098ae.jpg]

This is my fire wand atm. Equipping it gives no +Matk.

I'm thinking perhaps it could be the same typo?

Could someone on KR test this? Like, upgrade a wand, stick it on, and see if your matk changes?

It may be a typo in NA but I don't think it's a typo for KR. I'm working on saving up money on KR to test this. Can you give me a few days to get that together.

Quote from wallrocha;1140086:
Well it also says -10 do MP Usage and that makes me think its just a typo (or they were too lazy to put the %)

@Gensokyou
that just happened recently with all of my wands/staves that had Magic Damage %.

Other thing, is it just me or recently im noticing faster casting speed on my Int magics? (1k+ int)

Could also be the fault of my english patch I have on KR test. I'll take it off and have Blanks translate tomorrow and get back to you on this.
Gensokyou wrote on 2013-08-25 01:48

Quote from Kingofrunes;1140095:
It may be a typo in NA but I don't think it's a typo for KR. I'm working on saving up money on KR to test this. Can you give me a few days to get that together.

Could also be the fault of my english patch I have on KR test. I'll take it off and have Blanks translate tomorrow and get back to you on this.

Thanks. This would be really good to know because if it ends up being MAtk magic might have been pretty nerfed in some areas ._.;
ewire123 wrote on 2013-08-25 02:03

Quote from Gensokyou;1140101:
Thanks. This would be really good to know because if it ends up being MAtk magic might have been pretty nerfed in some areas ._.;

lol wut

it already been concluded that ALL magic after revamp have increased damage. Not a single spell got nerf.

They even buff blaze back to it former glory and more. Fusion bolt is as strong as INT magic now after revamp.
Gensokyou wrote on 2013-08-25 02:14

Quote from ewire123;1140103:
lol wut

it already been concluded that ALL magic after revamp have increased damage. Not a single spell got nerf.

They even buff blaze back to it former glory and more. Fusion bolt is as strong as INT magic now after revamp.

You're missing the point of what i'm saying.

That's okay though, i'm just waiting for king to get back to me.
Psy wrote on 2013-08-25 03:22

Quote from ewire123;1140103:
lol wut

it already been concluded that ALL magic after revamp have increased damage. Not a single spell got nerf.

They even buff blaze back to it former glory and more. Fusion bolt is as strong as INT magic now after revamp.

Yes, magic is overall stronger, that doesn't mean parts of it isn't nerfed. Evident with the change to hailstorm's reforge and elemental masteries.
Kingofrunes wrote on 2013-08-25 03:30

Quote from Gensokyou;1140107:
You're missing the point of what i'm saying.

That's okay though, i'm just waiting for king to get back to me.

No Wand

[Image: http://puu.sh/4acIz.png]

Wand with +4 Magic Attack Upgrade instead of Magic Damage Upgrade

[Image: http://puu.sh/4acCy.png]

Upgrades confirmed to be Magic Attack now.

One thing I don't get is that I have 2 less magic attack than what I should technically have. 220/5 = 44.

Nevermind, guess First 10 of a stat never counts.

Final upgrade to verify and put the nail in ye old coffin

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wallrocha wrote on 2013-08-25 04:34

Welp that basically killed Crown Ice Wand and my full enchanted S6 one is going to be trashed. Hermit Staff master race (that ugly [S]shit[/S] fetus staff ugh)
Aubog007 wrote on 2013-08-25 05:20

Savage wands it seems are the way to go.
Gensokyou wrote on 2013-08-25 05:33

Quote from Aubog007;1140159:
Savage wands it seems are the way to go.

Why? Detailed explanation and not including blaze, please?

Seems like casting speed upgrades are the way to go then. Losing out on 10 matk post update is basically nothing unless you're doing meteor.

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