Thoughts on Renovation?

• k1nsoo wrote on 2015-04-24 20:16

  Quote from Esileruf;1272230:

  I'll refrain from being an asshole for one post.

  
  
  [video=youtube;MpHX8hbigng]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpHX8hbigng&feature=youtu.be[/video]
  
  Explain this?
  
  And this?
  [SPOILER="Mabinogi Times"]http://www.mabinogi.pe.kr/bbs/zboard.php?id=report&page=1&sn1=&divpage=4&sn=off&ss=on&sc=on&select_arrange=headnum&desc=asc&no=29676[/SPOILER]
  
  Why does my bash counter doesn't go up each hit with Falcata (Slow) whereas it goes up with Liberty Saber (Normal)? Oh and I have attackspeed proc, rest assured
• Esileruf wrote on 2015-04-24 20:23

  Quote from k1nsoo;1272231:

  [video=youtubeold;MpHX8hbigng]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpHX8hbigng&feature=youtu.be[/video]
  
  Explain this?
  
  And this?
  [SPOILER="Mabinogi Times"]http://www.mabinogi.pe.kr/bbs/zboard.php?id=report&page=1&sn1=&divpage=4&sn=off&ss=on&sc=on&select_arrange=headnum&desc=asc&no=29676[/SPOILER]

  
  
  That is a bleeding francisca(Slow Speed Weapon), and a functioning attack speed set, doing double-bash SEVERAL times. And through the garbled translation that google hands me(can't into korean, sorry.) I'm getting the same thing you are saying, yet I'm able to double-bash, although with some difficulty. Attack speed set brings up the weapon another grade of speed, and bash only looks for if its normal or higher in order to double bash.
  
  What I'm trying to say is that bash doesn't care if you're using an attack speed set or not. It looks if you've got Normal Speed or equivalent, or greater, in order to perform double-bash.
• ironwoman wrote on 2015-04-24 20:25

  Quote from Oberynn;1272216:

  Good to know. Why not an ele 6 scythe though?

  
  
  Can you even use bash with scythes?
• k1nsoo wrote on 2015-04-24 20:34

  Quote from Esileruf;1272233:

  That is a bleeding francisca(Slow Speed Weapon), and a functioning attack speed set, doing double-bash SEVERAL times. And through the garbled translation that google hands me(can't into korean, sorry.) I'm getting the same thing you are saying, yet I'm able to double-bash, although with some difficulty. Attack speed set brings up the weapon another grade of speed, and bash only looks for if its normal or higher in order to double bash.
  
  What I'm trying to say is that bash doesn't care if you're using an attack speed set or not. It looks if you've got Normal Speed or equivalent, or greater, in order to perform double-bash.

  
  
  Why not switch weapon at 5 stack to reset counter and see if doublebash with axe works? Using bash at 5 stacks doesn't show counter. If it really does work, maybe race difference? I know for sure that this doesn't work for humans
• Esileruf wrote on 2015-04-24 20:45

  Quote from k1nsoo;1272235:

  Why not switch weapon at 5 stack to reset counter and see if doublebash with axe works? Using bash at 5 stacks doesn't show counter. If it really does work, maybe race difference? I know for sure that this doesn't work for humans

  
  
  Well, Fran Broke. So now here's one with a broad stick. WHICH IS SLOW SPEED.
  

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• Darkboy132 wrote on 2015-04-24 20:49

  Quote from ironwoman;1272234:

  Can you even use bash with scythes?

  
  
  Nope. They even said in their interview.
• Oberynn wrote on 2015-04-24 21:58
  It's probably connection/setting dependent because 90% of people I've asked to try have not been able to double bash with slow speed.
  
  I can do it like maybe once every 10 bashes.
• Darkboy132 wrote on 2015-04-24 23:41

  Quote from KingFintchz;1272003:

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  How I feel as a giant after seeing people use final hit.

  
  
  

  [Image: http://i.imgur.com/HMmVAgX.png]

  
  
  How mages feel after seeing people use final hit. Share the salt.
• Oberynn wrote on 2015-04-24 23:45
  People hit more using wotg/smash/magnum,etc than firebolts for a long ass time, so it's not like FH changed anything.
• Zeo wrote on 2015-04-24 23:48

  Quote from KingFintchz;1272003:

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  How I feel as a giant after seeing people use final hit.

  
  
  At least you actually got some renovation changes for your skills... Elves basically got none.
• ＣＩＲＮＯ wrote on 2015-04-25 00:02

  Quote from Oberynn;1272268:

  People hit more using wotg/smash/magnum,etc than firebolts for a long ass time, so it's not like FH changed anything.

  
  
  Firebolt highest DPS, so nope.
• Kaeporo wrote on 2015-04-25 00:04

  Quote from ＣＩＲＮＯ;1272273:

  Firebolt highest DPS, so nope.

  
  
  Magnum Shot has always held the highest DPS with enough investment.
  
  Firebolt is just easy to gear and use. It's end-game on a budget.
• Oberynn wrote on 2015-04-25 00:12

  Quote from ＣＩＲＮＯ;1272273:

  Firebolt highest DPS, so nope.

  
  
  I do 40k firebolt without even using combo card and it pales in comparison to my own wotg and the smash/magnum of other endgame people in those fields.
  
  Hell, it pales in comparison to even my own bash with focused beams right now. Though this part is cause bash x2 DPS is pretty broken.
• KingFintchz wrote on 2015-04-25 00:15

  Quote from Oberynn;1272206:

  You can't bash x2 with warhammer or iron mace though so you're only doing half the damage. Or does attack speed make it possible?
  
  Edit: I tested and couldn't make it happen so idk why bash with warhammer and not a fanatic 2h.

  
  
  The difference being that I can afford an r6 war hammer.
• Oberynn wrote on 2015-04-25 00:17

  Quote from KingFintchz;1272276:

  The difference being that I can afford an r6 war hammer.

  
  
  You would probably do more damage hitting twice with a fanatic 2h no special upgrades than hitting once with dual r6 warhammers.